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42 Comments on “How is a Bowling House Shot Oil Condition Different than a Sport Shot?”
We bowled one day, after a college team practiced on a sport pattern.
I lined up like I normally do. My ASTRO physix, instead of breaking toward the pocket, kept going into the gutter.😀😃😄😁
And my Storm ICE, went straight down the 2-3 board. But in the house, it breaks right. 🤪
Now 12 year olds are bowling multiple 300s. Back in the day when a 300 was rolled a representative from the ABC actually came to verify that that pair of lanes met ABC standards. Some time in the early 1980s they actually added weight to the pins to keep scores in check. So much for that.
@Brad Darling It does count. It is literally called bowling evolution.
@Polarcupcheck really, so you physically hold the ball in your hands and approach and throw it down a Lane? Dealing with oil pattern adjustments as oil pushes out and down, dealing with other bowlers crossing your line altering your shot by mm to cm?
@Brad Darling What you are trying to do is define bowling within your subjective bias of what the game should be. Some would say resin is not bowling. Even urethane is not real bowling. That a rubber ball on lacquer is real bowling. Objectively, my scores are a legit as any other in the history of the game.
@Polarcupcheck what you just said is nothing short of moronic. Bowling is a physical game, we’re not talking video games. You could be great at a video game, then physically pick up a 15-16lb ball put shoes on and suddenly you can’t bowl. Video game bowling can be used as a tool to increase knowledge that can then transfer to physically bowling. But you still have to use your body to bowl… If you’re not doing this, than you’re just playing a video game. The only person that’s trying to redefine the definition of bowling is you. Sorry, if you’re not physically bowling, you’re playing a video game which isn’t indicative to your actual skills as a physical bowler.
I can’t stand that these patterns are almost impossible to play/practice on unless you’re bowling tournaments or on tour.
Becoming a professional bowler would be 90% easier if any ordinary bowler could get sport patterns laid out for them whenever they’d like.
It honestly pisses me off how next to impossible it is to try out some patterns other than a typical house shot pattern. Also hate how they
call it a “typical house shot” pattern even though every single house I’ve ever bowled at feels different than all the rest.
One center near us has a sport pattern league in the summer. Different pattern each week. I haven’t done it yet. But I know people that have. Average drops about 50 pins compared to THS.
all typical house shot means is that there is hook on the outside and hold on the inside and funnels the ball toward the pocket with lots of miss room. The area of play changes depending on how much play is on it with reactive or urethane/plastic. Depends on carry down or burn. The lane surfaces makes a difference as well. How soft the lanes can make a difference too. The point is, there is always a way to the pocket from a lot of different angles compared to a sport shot where there is very little miss room and angle of play is different.
Have you tried asking your local center to put a sport pattern out for you? Pretty much all the centers in my area will do that for a small fee.
I was a manager and mechanic at a bowling alley when I was younger. One of my best friends was my boss. Many sport shots aren’t hard when you can see them and practice on them. There are a few though where it doesn’t matter. We used to take 2 lanes everyday and set a different sport pattern or pba pattern on them to practice. I can not only shoot high but average high on 6 different pba shots and have shot 800 on 4 of them.
@Trandafir Rubyunless they run a reverse pattern which some houses do
Is a sport pattern difficult because it’s actually difficult? Or is it only difficult because 99% of the time we never get to practice on them?
Driving a car with a manual transmission for example. It’s not difficult at all once you understand how to properly use the clutch but for
people that have never been able to drive a manual they would say it’s difficult. Doesn’t mean it actually is though. I feel that applies a
little bit here in regards to the sport patterns.
@critterdude311 exactly. Professional bowlers have very consistent tracks over the course of 3 games. We weekend warriors can be lucky to put 5 rolls that close together. 😀😃😄😁
Quick answer: maybe 5 or so different house shots. Hundreds of different sport patterns. You literally have to be able to bowl GOOD 12 different ways and vary styles. Then repeat that over 40 games. That’s to be able to keep up with short, medium, long, light oil, heavy oil. I’d get what you’re saying if the sport shot was the same sport shot. But it’s always different and so many of them. Some guys can do good on one specific type of pattern. But the best in the world can do good on a dozen different patterns.
Much less forgiveness on sport patterns.
Your shot execution on sport has to be significantly more consistent than a standard house shot. It’s much less forgiving. For comparison, I average 218 in my house league, but only 195 in my sport. One board makes a difference between ten back and a six count.
I get your manual transmission comparison. But I think it’s more like, if you drive the same stick shift you own daily vs driving someone else’s stick shift for the first time. You know how to drive a stick shift. But, not all stick shifts drive the same.
This kind of comparison and demonstration is awesome. Would love to see more content like this! 2-handed on the same setup would also be apprecaited!
Thanks for the comparison demonstration guys!
Couple of weeks ago, I had the chance to bowl on a sport pattern for the first time ever. It was called The Red Door.
I shot 137, 127, and 117.
A very humbling experience. And I was very happy with those scores.
Getting to physically see the pattern makes a huge difference. There are several pro shots that after studying briefly I was able to not only score high on but average high.
Nice hopefully I will get a chance on day
I’ve had many bowlers over the years who don’t believe this… They think pros must be bowling on a house pattern. This is well done Mike & Mike! Hopefully a few more will see the light from this fantastic video. If not, I suppose we can tell them to throw a Cyborg Pearl on a sport pattern and call it a day
Thanks Mike and Mike!
problem with our house’s “house” pattern is it always seems to be different every night you go in. And different on Monday night than Thursday night.
Not only will it be different night to night but will also play different from lane to lane. It’s almost impossible to get 2 lanes identical because of so many variables. It’s what makes bowling so fun and so frustrating at the same time.
You must bowl at Wayne Webb’s. We call it a travel league. Constantly changes the pattern. One day outside of ten in OB and the next you have to play the gutter. And it’s supposed to be a house shot every week
@Matthew Mascret , I’m probably 1000 miles south of there in Florida. Sometimes have to stand almost off the approach and slow it way down just to get the ball to come into the pocket, other times in line with the ball return and hard as I can throw it to keep it from over hooking, and that’s using the same ball. Mondays after a Sunday no tap with a long pattern are the worst, suspect they rarely change the cleaning pads, and sometimes seems they don’t know what the oiling machine is putting out, much less if it’s even calibrated…seriously doubt it because never spending money on anything, just patch things and keep going.
Ive got 13 300’s in competition. Just 1 on sport shot. Really proud on that one 🙂
Shooting a 300 on a Sport shot is a great accomplishment, congrats!!
Omg I wouldn’t even bowl on that sport pattern forget it!
I wouldn’t say it’s difficult going between the house and sports patent. It’s just different.
The #1 problem with the game these days – TOO many people SPOILED with house shots, along inflated averages and egos. Sport patterns really aren’t as BRUTAL as many might think, but you DO have to make GOOD shots, know where to play on the lane, and pay attention to transition. Yes, scores and averages go down, but that’s were PRACTICE and COACHING come in. Imagine if house shots were done away with at the GRASSROOTS level…
Hi Mike & Mike… Question: When the four lines are not on the lane, close to the pins, and the gutters are not marked in 10ft lengths, how do you locate the break point length on different oil patterns?
In that situation that you described it can be harder to be exact, so you may have to a bit more general in the exact footage of the oil pattern length. You would still be able to determine whether the pattern is more of a short, medium or longer pattern. Just as Marshall demonstrated in the video, moving deeper on the lane to find more oil and throwing a shot slowly can help you to see the basic distance that the ball exits the oil and hits the dryer part of the lane which would be at the end of the pattern. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching our videos, we appreciate it!!
@InsideBowling I really appreciate you guys. Thanks for taking the time to get back with me.
Consistency is really the key to bowling on any shot anywhere and it’s what separates amateurs from professionals. On house shot you can be less consistent and still bowl well, on sport shots you cannot.
Compare it to a house shot after a bunch of people have been playing on it all day lol.
Would it be possible to get the data sheet for the house shot shown in this video?
I called South Point before and asked what length is their house shot, person I spoke to said 42 feet. This house shot here in this video is less than that.